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Post by mr.syntrx » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:28 am

DES? Restricted? lawl. Only in France (no crypto at all for anyone there, but who care about that shithole.)

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Post by K2JLX » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:11 am

mr.syntrx wrote:DES? Restricted? lawl. Only in France (no crypto at all for anyone there, but who care about that shithole.)
Amen, i've said it before, i'll say it again, bloody frogs.
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Post by KC9UZB » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:13 am

Wine swilling, bad smelling, cheese eating surrender monkeys! :D :ve4uo: :ve4uo: :baby:

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Post by KD8CPP » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:26 am

mr.syntrx wrote:DES? Restricted? lawl. Only in France (no crypto at all for anyone there, but who care about that shithole.)
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Post by motorola_otaku » Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:43 am

mr.syntrx wrote:Only in France (no crypto at all for anyone there, but who care about that shithole.)
I guess they don't have DVDs, Blu-Rays, or WEP/WPA on their wifi, then. :baby:

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Post by KD6NIG » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:41 pm

Might explain why they have problems defending themselves, eh?

If all of their military comms are in the open......
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Post by mr.syntrx » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:29 am

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mr.syntrx wrote:Only in France (no crypto at all for anyone there, but who care about that shithole.)
I guess they don't have DVDs, Blu-Rays, or WEP/WPA on their wifi, then. :baby:
Don't know about the DVDs, but yeah, no WEP/WPA (on any of the three channels they can legally use. Rest of Europe gets 14 channels for 11b), no secure VPN, no encrypted Terminal Services sessions etc.

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Post by escomm » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:34 am

No SSL?

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Post by mr.syntrx » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:21 am

KD6NIG wrote:Might explain why they have problems defending themselves, eh?

If all of their military comms are in the open......
Those rules are only for the people.

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Post by mr.syntrx » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:22 am

escomm wrote:No SSL?
Nope. You can only run crypto for communications with a permit, which for all intents and purposes can't be obtained.

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Post by escomm » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:50 pm

mr.syntrx wrote:
escomm wrote:No SSL?
Nope. You can only run crypto for communications with a permit, which for all intents and purposes can't be obtained.
http://www.ssl247-france.com/

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Post by mr.syntrx » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:00 pm

Unless they changed the law. They had all kinds of bullshit bills in progress that did and didn't get passed like allowing crypto up to 40 bits for ecommerce and whatnot, but I've stopped keeping track of the pathetic situation there.

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Post by escomm » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:11 pm

Damn frogs

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Post by KC9UZB » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:09 am

Sorry guys, I need to rant... I'll keep it as swear free as possible.

Paid the seller on 20th of June. I got a USPS tracking number same day, automagically generated by paypal. It stayed as "electronicly notified" for a while - I thought...ok this can happen, I've seen it stay like that even until the thing is delivered... 8 days later on the 29th it suddenly updates and tells me the parcel has left the US-of-A. WOOHOO! I think.

Here's some chronology:

Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 20, 2007
Enroute, June 28, 2007, 3:54 pm, MELVILLE, NY 11747
International Dispatch, June 29, 2007, 8:00 am, KENNEDY AMC
Enroute, June 29, 2007, 8:00 am, JAMAICA, NY 11499

Ok - so either USPS is very slow, or the dude didn't post it for 8 days? What say you?

Moving on. Item arrives in the UK 4 days later... hits customs like a truck hitting those anti-terror concrete blocks.. I'd assume it would get flagged up and hit with customs charges and TAX, so I'm not really fussed... it came through fine:

03-07-2007 17:29 International Hub AWAITING CUSTOMS CHARGES
03-07-2007 17:30 International Hub AWAITING CUSTOMS CHARGING
04-07-2007 07:07 International Hub RELEASED WITH CHARGES

Ok - now it takes a day or two to get to the Manchester depot for the parcel service in this country - any brits reading know of Parcel Force, commonly known as Parcel FARCE. They pay the customs charges on your behalf, and add a fee on top of that. Fair enough... they then hold onto your parcel until you pay... fair enough! But, they send you a letter saying how much you owe, and how to pay. I didn't want to wait two days for them to mail me this letter, so I called up the depot and asked if I could pay before that... the dude said yes, so I did...

$100+ of charges and tax.. eek. Not bad I guess, the total I paid for this saber is around $500 now, inc. everything.

I paid around at around 11:35am, the tracking page updated at 12:53 to say:
05-07-2007 12:53 Manchester Piccadilly Depot Awaiting payment of charges

Ookay, I assumed it just hadn't updated properly... I actually started to call them up and double check.... I decided not to........

Ok, its a brand new day, I should have my Saber by now, right??? Wrong! I paid just a **** hair too late for my parcel to be loaded up for the night shift to be delivered this morning :soap:

The bloody radio is sat in some frigging depot because some lazy oananist couldn't be bothered to load it up. I now have to wait until Monday before I'm IMBE sexy. I'm truly pissed off, but! I'm also phylosphical... (sp?)

I haven't got my programming lead yet, so I wouldn't be legally allowed to use the radio anyway... :cheeseandwhine: :cheeseandwhine: :cheeseandwhine:

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Post by K2JLX » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:19 am

You should just drive into Manchester and pick it up; your not that far away, take the white "police interceptor" nissan Almera.

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Post by KC9UZB » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:21 am

K2JLX wrote:You should just drive into Manchester and pick it up; your not that far away, take the white "police interceptor" nissan Almera.

:baby:
Git! :D

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Nah Imma just be patient (for once in my life) and wait for it.. hope my fricking programming cable turns up soon!

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Post by mr.syntrx » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:57 pm

I pay no Customs duty on goods from the USA, thanks to the FTA.

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Post by KC9UZB » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:17 am

mr.syntrx wrote:I pay no Customs duty on goods from the USA, thanks to the FTA.

:mjban:
Bastard! :baby: :baby:

I don't pay duty either, but the ***t's hit me with SALES TAX on a secondhand item...........

17.5% of $400 PLUS $30 "Admin" charge.

God I love this country! :soap: :baby: :baby: :baby: :cheeseandwhine:

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Post by escomm » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:43 am

We took issue with England's bullshit taxes and had a little tea party. Might I recommend the same to you?

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Post by rosie » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:38 pm

Napalm wrote:
mr.syntrx wrote:I pay no Customs duty on goods from the USA, thanks to the FTA.

:mjban:
Bastard! :baby: :baby:

I don't pay duty either, but the ***t's hit me with SALES TAX on a secondhand item...........

17.5% of $400 PLUS $30 "Admin" charge.

God I love this country! :soap: :baby: :baby: :baby: :cheeseandwhine:
Its 14% over here, and 5$ admin if sent through national postal services, or 25/30$ for private carriers.

Suck it up. Or commit fraud, your call. (chose fraud)

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Post by KC9UZB » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:19 pm

I won't admit to anything here, but my last two scanners I imported didn't attract any tax or duty. :baby:

I just didn't want to risk $400's worth of gear going into the sweaty hands of some postal worker... and never being seen again, and no way of getting my money back.

Parcel marked as gift / no value = no insurance :baby:

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Post by n3jfw » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:01 pm

Napalm wrote: Parcel marked as gift / no value = no insurance :baby:

I've had good luck shippign thinks as gift, declared value low, insured for right amount.


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Post by motorola_otaku » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:12 pm

n3jfw wrote:I've had good luck shippign thinks as gift, declared value low, insured for right amount.
+1

Everything I send to Canada goes this way. Very little of it is paid for anyway, so it's all on the up-and-up.
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Post by WTF » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:45 pm

Any time you can defraud the government by giving them less money I'm all for it...
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Post by mr.syntrx » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:54 pm

rosie wrote:Its 14% over here, and 5$ admin if sent through national postal services, or 25/30$ for private carriers.

Suck it up. Or commit fraud, your call. (chose fraud)
We occasionally get hit for GST, but it's 10%, with an $80 admin fee for UPS (the dirty cunts!), and none for the post office.

Customs won't bother unless the value is $400 for a private courier, or $1000 by post though, so if I'm going to buy that much stuff, I have the parcels split up.

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Post by KC9UZB » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:41 am

n3jfw wrote:
Napalm wrote: Parcel marked as gift / no value = no insurance :baby:

I've had good luck shippign thinks as gift, declared value low, insured for right amount.


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Hmm, there's hope then. I did sort of ask the seller if he'd mark it as low value, but he said something about the insurance and he couldn't mark it down?

Anyway, I think my next saber or my 3k will come from here or someone I know off batlabs ;)

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Post by escomm » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:04 pm

Fraud is great until you get caught

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Post by KC9UZB » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:18 pm

Even if the tax is completely unfair and unwarranted? ;)

We pay enough stinking tax in this country without paying it on secondhand goods!

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Post by mr.syntrx » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:41 pm

The Americans had the right idea a couple hundred years ago. That'll partially solve your tax problem :baby:

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Post by KD6NIG » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:09 pm

mr.syntrx wrote:The Americans had the right idea a couple hundred years ago. That'll partially solve your tax problem :baby:
But you'll be paying $100 a box for tea for a while....
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Post by KC9UZB » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:34 am

Gosh darnit... and I do SO enjoy tea.

Yeah what is it with you Americans drinking tea COLD ffs?

I knew someone who lived in Virginia (or was it West Virginia?) who would drink iced tea constantly...

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Post by K2JLX » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:20 am

Napalm wrote:Gosh darnit... and I do SO enjoy tea.

Yeah what is it with you Americans drinking tea COLD ffs?

I knew someone who lived in Virginia (or was it West Virginia?) who would drink iced tea constantly...
oI!

Ice tea isn't that bad. Its no cup of Earl Gray, but they even have an iced earl gray now, I saw it advertised on the TV. :anus:
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Post by KB9SXK » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:40 am

Napalm wrote:Gosh darnit... and I do SO enjoy tea.

Yeah what is it with you Americans drinking tea COLD ffs?

I knew someone who lived in Virginia (or was it West Virginia?) who would drink iced tea constantly...
I live on Iced Tea. I brew a gallon per day. (I never drink soda or coffee)

I enjoy a cuppa also, but I have a 32 oz mug of iced orange pekoe
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Post by motorola_otaku » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:23 am

Only on Hamsexy could a discussion of Motorola ASTRO radio recommendations turn into a discussion of iced tea. :baby:
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Post by KC9UZB » Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:44 am

K2JLX wrote:they even have an iced earl gray now, I saw it advertised on the TV. :anus:
That's a frigging travesty!

What's the world coming to.

To be honest I've never tried ice tea... erm... do you have milk and sugar or what? Because tea with no milk and/or sugar (NOT in the case of Earl Grey) is just.. disgusting.

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